Timcast IRL · November 20, 2022 · 2h 0m
Sunday Uncensored: Michale Graves Members Only Podcast
Episode Recap
Timcast IRL's Sunday Uncensored episode featured Michael Graves, former lead vocalist of The Misfits, joining Tim Pool and the co-hosts for a conversation centered around music, artistic collaboration, and cultural production. The episode opened with studio updates, as Tim discussed plans to build a live room at the new Timcast studio that would allow for guitar and other instrument plug-ins. The conversation then shifted to Michael Graves performing his song 'Boxcar Headed East,' a powerful track about the Holocaust that uses the boxcar metaphor to represent innocent people being lied to and deceived. Graves explained his family connection to the tragedy and the importance of remembering such historical events through art. The discussion explored the age of musical collaboration, with references to Dire Straits and Sting's 'Money for Nothing,' Neil Young joining Crosby, Stills & Nash, and the legendary Aerosmith and Run DMC partnership. Graves shared his approach to music creation, describing his style as acoustic rock with folk influences that tackles political themes directly and aggressively. The conversation addressed the challenge of creating culture that young people aspire to, with Tim Pool emphasizing the importance of producing content that inspires positive engagement rather than simply awakening political consciousness. The episode touched on contemporary music industry controversies, including The Offspring's decision to part ways with drummer Pete Parada, highlighting broader tensions in the entertainment industry regarding artistic expression and corporate expectations.
TL;DR
- →Michael Graves performed his song 'Boxcar Headed East,' a powerful track about the Holocaust using boxcar imagery as an allegory for deception and tragedy, with personal family connections to the historical event
- →Tim Pool discussed building a new Timcast studio with a live room to accommodate musical performances and guest instruments like guitars
- →The panel explored the history of musical collaboration, citing examples like Sting and Dire Straits, Neil Young with Crosby Stills Nash, and the groundbreaking Aerosmith-Run DMC partnership
- →Michael Graves explained his songwriting approach as acoustic rock with folk influences that directly addresses political themes of the day
- →Tim Pool emphasized the importance of creating culture that young people aspire to, rather than just awakening them to political issues
- →The episode referenced The Offspring's controversy over firing drummer Pete Parada as an example of current tensions in the music industry
Key Moments
- 0:02:17Studio UpdatesTim discusses plans for the new studio including a live room for musical performances and instrument plug-ins
- 0:03:00Michael Graves PerformanceGraves performs his song 'Boxcar Headed East,' explaining the Holocaust metaphor and his family's connection to the tragedy
- 0:09:09Musical Collaboration DiscussionPanel discusses the value of artistic collaboration across genres, citing legendary partnerships in music history
- 0:10:18Music Creation PhilosophyMichael Graves explains his approach to writing politically-charged acoustic rock music that transforms through production
- 0:12:41Cultural ProductionTim Pool and Graves discuss the importance of creating aspirational culture for young people rather than just political awakening
Notable Quotes
“I don't plan to run. From a boxcar headed east. Innocent of all the insane charges you charged me with somewhere deep in your mind. Exonerated from all the darkness, it disappears in the morning light.”
— Michael Graves · song performance about the Holocaust and boxcar allegory
“What's the boxcar metaphor? Is this like World War II shit?”
— Tim Pool · asking about the meaning behind Graves' song
“Think about all those innocent souls that thought they were going somewhere better. They were being lied to, and they got on those railway cars... My family was on those boxcars.”
— Michael Graves · explaining the Holocaust reference and personal connection
“As awesome as it is what the Daily Wire does, if we don't produce things that young people aspire to, then young people are going to aspire to do bad shit or more importantly they're going to aspire to be woke.”
— Tim Pool · discussing importance of creating aspirational culture
“Music doesn't have a box, it doesn't fit into one, and it's not supposed to. We're creating new genres as we go.”
— Michael Graves · philosophy on musical genre boundaries and artistic expression