Timcast IRL · October 2, 2020 · 2h 0m

Timcast IRL #143 - Leftists Threaten More Riots As Election Draws Near, DC Riot Squad Guests

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Episode Recap

Timcast IRL episode 143 aired on October 2, 2020, with Tim Pool hosting alongside co-hosts discussing the current state of political unrest as the presidential election approached. The episode featured the DC Riot Squad—Shelby Talcott, Horry Ventura, and Richie McGinniss from The Daily Caller—who shared their experiences covering riots and protests across the country. The discussion opened with criticism of the Associated Press decision to refer to protests as unrest rather than riots, with Pool agreeing that the term change was problematic as it lumped peaceful protests together with violent riots. The conversation then addressed the recent presidential debate where Donald Trump's stand back and stand by comment regarding the Proud Boys dominated media coverage, with Pool criticizing the media narrative attempting to label the Proud Boys as a white supremacist organization. The guests from The Daily Caller, who had been on the ground covering civil unrest in cities like Portland and Seattle, directly contradicted media claims that right-wing groups were secretly starting the violence. They referenced a New York Times article that had attempted to investigate this claim but found the opposite—that right wing militias were not the source of the violence. The reporters discussed how they had documented the full story of protests, including late-night hours when most other news crews had left, and noted that the individuals involved were definitely not Trump supporters. They also addressed the misconception about Boogaloo boys, clarifying that many of these individuals were libertarians who wanted less government, not right-wing extremists as commonly portrayed.

TL;DR

  • →AP Style guidelines changed to call protests 'unrest' instead of 'riots'—Pool and guests criticized this as misleading
  • →Trump's debate comment telling Proud Boys to stand back and stand by sparked massive media coverage
  • →Daily Caller reporters who covered riots on the ground debunked the narrative that right-wing groups were starting the violence
  • →A New York Times photographer investigation found that right-wing militias were NOT starting the violence, contrary to media claims
  • →Guests clarified that Boogaloo boys are often libertarians who want less government, not traditional right-wing extremists
  • →Coverage of ongoing riots and protests continued as Amy Coney Barrett confirmation hearings approached

Key Moments

  • 0:00
    AP Guidelines on Protest Terminology
    Opening discussion criticizing the Associated Press decision to call protests unrest instead of riots
  • 3:00
    DC Riot Squad Introduction
    Shelby Talcott, Horry Ventura, and Richie McGinniss introduce themselves and their work covering civil unrest
  • 3:34
    Media Manipulation on Trump and Proud Boys
    Pool criticizes media manipulation around Trump's stand back and stand by comment and false white supremacy labels
  • 4:59
    New York Times Contradicts Media Narrative
    Guests reveal that a NY Times investigation found right-wing groups were NOT starting the riots despite media claims
  • 6:20
    Boogaloo Boys Clarification
    Discussion about how Boogaloo boys are often libertarians rather than right-wing extremists

Notable Quotes

“The AP new guideline says to call it unrest. And a lot of people are kind of upset about it. They're saying that's ridiculous. Just call them riots.”

— Tim Pool · opening discussion on terminology

“They're saying Donald Trump refuses to denounce white supremacy. Donald Trump tells Proud Boys stand back and stand by, creating like this manipulation in media where they're trying to make you think the Proud Boys are a white supremacist group.”

— Tim Pool · media criticism

“You look at Portland, you look at Seattle, you look at some of these other areas that we've been to, and it is very clearly not right wing militias starting the violence.”

— Shelby Talcott · ground reporting

“The only videos I see are like leftist black bloc people and black lives matter going around throwing bricks and starting fires yet for some reason you see all these people on Twitter screaming it's actually right wingers doing it.”

— Tim Pool · main discussion

“When people see an image of someone in like militia gear they just automatically assume they're like a Trumper or on the right and like Shelby was saying, these people are actually on the side of the protesters.”

— Horry Ventura · guest perspective

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