Timcast IRL · November 12, 2020 · 2h 0m
Timcast IRL #164 - Trump Staging A COUP?! Journalists Panic Over Trump's Latest Move w/ Jack Murphy
Featuring: Jack Murphy
Episode Recap
Tim Pool hosted Timcast IRL episode 164 on November 12, 2020, with recurring guest Jack Murphy and co-host Ian Crossland. The episode centered on the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election and growing media speculation about whether Donald Trump might attempt to stage a coup rather than concede. Tim read from a Guardian article discussing the possibility of Trump ignoring courts and lawsuits, while emphasizing he wasn't suggesting anything improper was occurring. The discussion explored how Trump's legal challenges to election results were being portrayed versus what the Constitution actually allows for in terms of dispute resolution. Jack Murphy argued the process unfolding was entirely normal and expected, with a designated period for legal challenges built into the constitutional framework. The hosts criticized mainstream media coverage as hysteria, contrasting it with historical examples like the Hamilton-Burr duel as proof American politics has always had contentious disputes. The conversation shifted to attack tactics from the Lincoln Project and Never Trumpers against Trump's legal team, including doxxing of attorneys and targeting their clients. Tim and Jack discussed how establishment Republicans may not be upset if Trump loses, describing the dynamic as a uniparty phenomenon. The show also touched briefly on mail carrier safety concerns before returning to election-related topics.
TL;DR
- →Tim Pool and Jack Murphy discussed media hysteria over potential Trump coup following 2020 election
- →The Guardian article suggesting Trump might refuse to leave office was analyzed and critiqued
- →Jack Murphy argued Trump's legal challenges are constitutionally normal and expected
- →The Lincoln Project was criticized for doxxing Trump's lawyers and their clients
- →Hosts discussed the 'uniparty' dynamic between establishment Republicans and Democrats
- →Tim emphasized grassroots movement support for Trump beyond just the individual candidate
Key Moments
- 0:00Opening and Election ConcernsTim introduces the show and reads Guardian article about Trump potentially staging a coup, emphasizing he's not suggesting anything improper is happening
- 30:00Constitutional Process AnalysisJack Murphy joins and explains how the legal challenge process is built into the Constitution and is entirely normal
- 60:00Media Criticism and Historical ContextDiscussion of mainstream media hysteria compared to historical political disputes like Hamilton and Burr
- 90:00Lincoln Project AttacksCritique of Never Trumpers and Lincoln Project doxxing Trump's legal team and targeting their clients
- 120:00Uniparty DiscussionAnalysis of establishment Republicans not supporting Trump and the grassroots movement beyond him
Notable Quotes
“I don't know, man. It's really weird. I have no idea what's going on but we have an article from The Guardian suggesting Trump might stage a coup.”
— Tim Pool · opening discussion about media coverage
“We're going through a very normal process right now, making sure the votes are good, checking the system. The way it's supposed to work is very strange that the media is trying to tell us it's not normal.”
— Jack Murphy · constitutional analysis
“There's actually a dedicated period for legal challenges. It's expected. This would happen. The Constitution actually lays out how the process works.”
— Jack Murphy · legal process explanation
“The Lincoln Project is going after Trump's lawyers and the law firm itself and their clients. Going after the law firm and their clients is not indicative of a movement that thinks they're on track for victory. They're desperate and they're targeting, it's disgusting. It's really dirty.”
— Tim Pool · criticizing Never Trumpers
“Yeah, exactly. For the people who are listening, if only you could hear what we're talking about. This top secret stuff.”
— Ian Crossland · co-host commentary
About the Guests
Jack Murphy is a recurring guest on Timcast IRL, a writer and commentator who appears regularly on Wednesdays to discuss current events and political analysis with Tim Pool.