Timcast IRL · July 28, 2021 · 2h 0m
Timcast IRL #339 - Papa John Schnatter Joins To Discuss Cancel Culture And Media Lies
Episode Recap
Timcast IRL episode 339 featured former Papa John's CEO John Schnatter joining Tim Pool and co-host Ian Crossland to discuss cancel culture and media manipulation. The conversation opened with criticism of critical race theory being taught in schools and its impact on children, with Tim Pool describing how such programs tell kids they cannot succeed based on their race. Schnatter shared his personal experience of being ousted from the company he founded after being misrepresented in media coverage where he was simply describing a slur as bad. The discussion explored how corporate and political interests manipulate public perception using morsels of truth to build false narratives. The conversation then shifted to Papa John's business philosophy, with Schnatter explaining how the company differentiated itself by eliminating processed chemicals, nitrates, and preservatives from their ingredients. He recounted the origin of the famous 'Better Ingredients, Better Pizza' slogan, which was developed with marketing expert Jack Trout for $10,000. The panel also discussed the labor market and food quality concerns, with Schnatter explaining why other pizza chains use controversial ingredients like potassium bromate and Splenda. Throughout the episode, the hosts emphasized how cancel culture has evolved and impacts ordinary people who do nothing wrong.
TL;DR
- →John Schnatter joined Timcast IRL to discuss his experience being cancelled from Papa John's after being misrepresented by media.
- →The show discussed critical race theory in schools and how it affects children's ability to succeed.
- →Schnatter explained the origin of the 'Better Ingredients, Better Pizza' slogan created by marketing expert Jack Trout.
- →The conversation covered how corporate and political interests manipulate public perception through false accusations.
- →Panel discussed food processing chemicals like potassium bromate used by competing pizza chains.
- →Tim Pool emphasized that cancel culture is real and has evolved to target people who do nothing wrong.
Key Moments
- 0:00Opening and CRT DiscussionTim Pool opened the show discussing critical race theory being taught to children in schools and its negative effects.
- 41:00Papa John Schnatter IntroductionJohn Schnatter joined the show and began discussing his cancellation from Papa John's.
- 180:00Food Quality Deep DiveDetailed discussion about Papa John's ingredient philosophy and comparison to competitors.
- 300:00Business Success StorySchnatter shared the story of building Papa John's and the famous slogan creation with Jack Trout.
Notable Quotes
“Cancel culture is real and it's been going on for some time and it's evolving.”
— Tim Pool · opening discussion on media lies and cancellation
“This wave of what the left has referred to or the establishment has called social justice, in my opinion, is mostly about gaining power, political power, corporate power, otherwise.”
— Tim Pool · analysis of social justice movement
“Anything that's processed food is the FDA approves, which unfortunately usually is chemical-based. I mean, you can get a can of soup from Campbell's, and it's got 20 or 30 chemicals in it.”
— John Schnatter · explaining food processing and chemicals
“There's one story that happened several years ago, and it's about the CEO of a very large and prominent company being essentially falsely accused, or I should say the media spun a narrative that this CEO was a racist for describing a slur.”
— Tim Pool · introducing Schnatter's story
“We thought the more natural, the more authentic, the better it would be for the kids. And we just weren't convinced those chemicals in the food processing process were not unhealthy.”
— John Schnatter · Papa John's ingredient philosophy