Timcast IRL · October 20, 2021 · 2h 0m
Timcast IRL #396 - Southwest LOSING Vax Mandate Battle, Cancels Unpaid Leave Plan w/Michael Shellenberger
Episode Recap
Timcast IRL episode 396 aired on October 20, 2021, featuring Tim Pool and co-hosts discussing the ongoing vaccine mandate battles across America. The show opened with coverage of Southwest Airlines backing down from its plan to place employees on unpaid leave if they were awaiting vaccine exemption decisions, while Chicago police officers faced threats regarding their benefits if they retired instead of getting vaccinated. A judge was also highlighted as ordering the president of the Chicago police union to stop encouraging officers to defy the mandates. The episode featured author Michael Shellenberger, who discussed his book 'San Francisco, Why Progressives Ruin Cities' and criticized progressive policies for contributing to crime, homelessness, and urban decay in the city. Shellenberger drew comparisons between conditions in San Francisco and Brazilian favelas, noting that even impoverished areas abroad maintained better public sanitation than America's tech capital. The discussion touched on the San Francisco District Attorney's controversial proposal to reimburse victims of car break-ins, and the creation of a so-called 'poop department' to address public defecation. Luke, a co-host, made light of the situation with references to historical scientific failures like DDT and cigarettes being once recommended by doctors. The episode concluded with announcements about TimCast membership auctions for an upcoming event.
TL;DR
- →Southwest Airlines reversed its unpaid leave policy for employees pending vaccine exemptions, representing a partial retreat from mandate enforcement
- →Chicago police officers faced threats of benefit loss if they chose retirement over vaccination compliance
- →A judge ordered the Chicago police union president to stop encouraging officers to defy vaccine mandates
- →Michael Shellenberger appeared to discuss his book 'San Francisco, Why Progressives Ruin Cities' and urban decay under progressive leadership
- →San Francisco has seen $100,000 private rewards offered for crime solving and a DA proposing to reimburse car window smash victims
- →Co-hosts discussed 'Freedom Flu' sickouts and compared current public sanitation issues to conditions in Brazilian favelas
Key Moments
- 0:00Opening and Vaccine Mandate NewsTim opened with analysis of Southwest Airlines backing down from unpaid leave plans and Chicago police being threatened over vaccine compliance
- 30:00Chicago Police Union ConflictDiscussion of judge ordering police union president to stop encouraging defiance of mandates
- 60:00Michael Shellenberger IntroductionAuthor introduced his new book and discussed San Francisco's urban problems under progressive policies
- 90:00San Francisco Urban Decay AnalysisShellenberger compared SF conditions to favelas in Brazil, discussing crime, public defecation, and DA policies
- 120:00Skepticism Segment and ClosingLuke's satirical take on trusting science, mentions of historical failures, and TimCast event announcements
Notable Quotes
“The beast is shaken. It's getting scared. And we got to talk about that. We got to talk about what happens when you demonize, defund, remove the police, because we can take a look at the crime in San Francisco.”
— Tim Pool · opening discussion of police and consequences
“Civilization requires that laws are enforced. It requires that there'd be consequences for behaviors that are incompatible with city life.”
— Michael Shellenberger · main discussion on urban decay
“I talk about how the current DA was proposing to basically just reimburse people whose car windows had been smashed in. I mean, what could go wrong?”
— Michael Shellenberger · guest interview segment
“I've lived in Brazil, been in shanties. I know favelas. I've been in very shanty towns in poor parts of the world, India. It's different. San Francisco is the richest country, one of the richest places in the world. But even in the favelas, I didn't see people taking dumps on the stairs or the sidewalks.”
— Tim Pool · analysis of SF conditions
“Always trust the science no matter what because they're never wrong. You should never question it. The scientific method is sort of like a suggestion, and our carefully curated, selected, highly paid scientists who have conflict of interest and connections to big industries never lie to us.”
— Luke · skepticism segment