Timcast IRL · July 28, 2022 · 2h 0m
Timcast IRL #581 - DOJ COULD Charge Trump Criminally, Story May Be HOAX w/Ned Ryun & Lauren Southern
Episode Recap
Timcast IRL episode 581 featured Tim Pool, co-host Ian Crossland, and guests Ned Ryun and Lauren Southern discussing several topics including the Department of Justice potentially charging Donald Trump criminally over January 6th, which Tim argued was likely a media hoax designed to energize Democratic voters ahead of the November elections. The panel examined how media outlets misinterpreted statements about investigating Trump's actions versus an actual criminal investigation, and discussed Merrick Garland's refusal to rule out charges. Additional topics included Trump threatening to sue CNN, The View apologizing to Turning Point USA after defamation, and FiveThirtyEight's analysis claiming Democrats were favored to win. Ned Ryun discussed his organization American Majority's mission to train and elect conservative candidates at the state and local level, emphasizing that political power requires systematic action rather than just discussing ideas. Lauren Southern, a documentary filmmaker, provided cultural commentary throughout the episode.
TL;DR
- →Tim Pool argued that reports of Trump being under criminal investigation are likely a media hoax designed to motivate Democratic voters, not an actual prosecution effort.
- →The panel discussed Merrick Garland refusing to rule out charging Trump while emphasizing the distinction between investigating actions versus investigating the individual himself.
- →Ned Ryun explained his organization American Majority's focus on training and electing conservatives at the state and local level as the path to generational political change.
- →The View's apology to Turning Point USA was discussed, with Tim noting it appeared inadequate and likely issued because TPUSA threatened to sue.
- →FiveThirtyEight's controversial polling showing Democrats favored to win in November was addressed as being potentially flawed or politically motivated.
- →Trump's threat to sue CNN was mentioned as part of the ongoing legal and media battles involving the former president.
Key Moments
- 0:00Opening and Trump Investigation StoryTim opens by introducing the main story about DOJ potentially charging Trump and immediately expresses his belief it's a media hoax
- 7:00Guest Ned Ryun IntroductionNed Ryun joins and explains his work with American Majority focusing on state and local political training
- 15:00Analysis of DOJ Investigation ClaimsDeep dive into why Tim believes the Washington Post story is misleading and designed to energize Democrats
- 30:00Political Action DiscussionNed Ryun explains the importance of building political power systematically at local levels
- 60:00Additional News StoriesDiscussion of Trump suing CNN, The View apology to TPUSA, and FiveThirtyEight polling
Notable Quotes
“We got this story about Donald Trump, right? They're claiming that his actions are under investigation. And what does that really mean that someone's actions are under investigation? Doesn't mean he is.”
— Tim Pool · opening segment on the DOJ investigation story
“This is exactly how you do it. You go to someone when there's no criminal investigation and no charges and say, would you charge him if you found a crime? Well, we're not going to rule out anything.”
— Tim Pool · explaining why he believes the story is a media hoax
“Politics is policy that unless you win politically all you're doing is having great conversations about policy. You have to have political power to actually implement your ideas.”
— Ned Ryun · explaining his philosophy on political action
“The goal being we've got to build a farm team at the state and local level that's how you bring about national generational change kind of reverse engineering what the progressives did 100 years ago.”
— Tim Pool · discussing Ned's political strategy approach
“I feel like we get stuck on our ideas, and we like to write white papers and talk about all these fantastic ideas, but it's towards action. Action is the soul of revolution.”
— Ian Crossland · agreeing with Ned's approach to political engagement