Timcast IRL · September 3, 2022 · 2h 0m
Timcast IRL #608 Dem Media Says Civil War IS NOW, Biden Speech Likened To War Speech w/Matt Kibbe
Episode Recap
Timcast IRL episode 608 featured Tim Pool and co-hosts discussing the fractured state of modern media and concerns about government-tech collusion to censor information. The discussion opened with observations about how different news networks now report contradictory facts, citing examples like the Sondland testimony where Fox and CBS presented opposite narratives, and the Chinese drone incident where outlets varied on whether it was a Chinese drone or unidentified. Tim reflected on the Walter Cronkite era when three networks delivered unified news versus today's decentralized information landscape with infinite contradictory sources. The conversation shifted to the Missouri-Louisiana Attorneys General lawsuit against the White House and big tech for coordinating censorship, particularly around COVID content. Tim highlighted emails showing ongoing government coordination dictating what content tech companies must remove, arguing this represents First Amendment violations. The co-hosts discussed personal experiences with COVID-related content suppression on social media platforms and noted the Supreme Court involvement in this case. Tim expressed hope that despite the chaotic media environment, individuals have more tools to fact-check and think independently compared to the curated Cronkite era, though concerns about postmodernist goals of manufactured confusion remained prominent throughout the discussion.
TL;DR
- →Discussion of media fragmentation and contradictory reporting between outlets like Fox and CBS on the same news events
- →Analysis of White House and big tech collusion lawsuit filed by Missouri and Louisiana Attorneys General over COVID censorship coordination
- →Examination of how government was actively dictating content removal requirements to Facebook and other platforms
- →Reflection on Walter Cronkite era versus modern decentralized news with infinite sources and contradictions
- →Personal anecdotes about COVID content suppression and algorithmic blacklisting on social media
- →Debate on First Amendment implications and whether free software code represents the future of free speech
Key Moments
- 0:00OpeningIntroduction and media bias discussion with examples of contradictory news reporting
- 35:53Media Truth CrisisTim discusses how we no longer see the same news and cannot verify what we're being told
- 36:52Cronkite Era ReflectionNostalgia for Walter Cronkite when all three networks reported the same information
- 39:09Tech Censorship LawsuitBreaking down the Missouri-Louisiana lawsuit against White House and big tech collusion
- 41:39First Amendment DiscussionTim argues we need to save the First Amendment and discusses free software code as future of free speech
Notable Quotes
“And now what happens is someone might go, did you hear that they shot down a Chinese drone? And I'll go, no, it wasn't identified. What are you talking about? The news said it was literally, this is insane. I don't know how we function this way.”
— Tim Pool · opening
“We have the ability now to sort of fact check the fact checkers. And I think that maybe puts more responsibility on us to figure things out for ourselves.”
— Tim Pool · media discussion
“The fact that you have Fox and CBS saying the exact opposite things, it is perfect for them that will try and fact check and then present to you the best to the best of our abilities the facts it they like that we come out and say they're lying to you and at the same time they point back and say they're lying to you because it confuses people.”
— Ian Crossland · media manipulation
“The state of Missouri is involved. I think that's the lawsuit where this is coming from... And this discovery is more like we knew this was happening because the white house was actually saying it from the podium and Biden was saying Facebook is literally killing people.”
— Tim Pool · lawsuit discussion
“Anytime Joe Biden has referenced COVID policies, I think anybody who tried sharing anything related to that should join a class action lawsuit against Facebook and the US government for collusion, violation of First Amendment rights.”
— Tim Pool · legal action