Timcast IRL · January 24, 2023 · 2h 0m
Timcast IRL #699 Steven Crowder Joins To Discuss StopBigCon.Com Live At 8PM EST
Episode Recap
Timcast IRL Episode 699 featured Tim Pool and co-hosts discussing Steven Crowder's ongoing dispute with The Daily Wire over contract terms, subscriber data ownership, and Crowder's new project BigCon.com. The conversation delved into the opaque nature of entertainment contracts, particularly the difference between standard NDAs and term sheets that prevent talent from discussing deal specifics. The panel explored how Rumble's business model allows creators to retain their subscriber bases upon contract termination, unlike other platforms that control member data. Discussion included poll results showing shifting public opinion on the Crowder-Daily Wire dispute, with viewership swinging dramatically after Crowder addressed the controversy. The show also covered challenges facing conservative content creators with YouTube monetization policies, advertiser guidelines, and payment processing services. Tim expressed frustration with punitive mandates against conservative creators and called for industry-wide change. The episode touched on parallels between media business practices and concerns about non-profit influence in conservative circles.
TL;DR
- →Tim Pool and co-hosts discussed Steven Crowder's contract dispute with The Daily Wire, focusing on NDA terms and subscriber data ownership
- →The panel explored how Rumble differs from other platforms by allowing creators to retain their member bases after contract termination
- →Poll results showed dramatic swings in public opinion about the Crowder-Daily Wire dispute, with initial 85% favoring Crowder dropping to 55-60% after Daily Wire representatives appeared, then rebounding
- →Discussion centered on opaque contract practices in the media industry and the importance of creators retaining ownership of their audiences
- →Tim addressed YouTube monetization challenges and advertiser guidelines that affect conservative content creators
- →The show mentioned payment processing alternatives including Dan Bongino's Parallel Economy as alternatives to PayPal and Stripe
Key Moments
- 0:00OpeningIntroduction and setup for discussing Steven Crowder's situation with BigCon and the Daily Wire dispute
- 30:00Contract AnalysisDeep dive into the differences between NDAs, term sheets, and how subscriber data is handled in entertainment contracts
- 60:00Poll Results DiscussionAnalysis of audience polls showing shifting sentiment regarding the Crowder vs Daily Wire controversy
- 90:00Platform EconomicsDiscussion of Rumble's creator-friendly model versus other platforms that don't allow members to be ported between services
- 120:00Monetization ChallengesTim Pool's commentary on YouTube monetization policies and calls for eliminating punitive mandates against conservative creators
Notable Quotes
“There's a big difference between an NDA and a term sheet. With a term sheet, I can make claims about what happened, whereas if you sign something that says you won't talk about it, you can't.”
— Tim Pool · contract discussion
“The only company that can actually offer the deal where you keep your members is Rumble. I think Rumble's doing a bunch of deals with people where when the term ends, the membership revenue is yours.”
— Tim Pool · platform comparison
“I have no problem when you tell people that you are fighting back and they are expecting it and investing, and you're not and you're demanding everybody else do it the same way as you do.”
— Tim Pool · creator accountability
“Get rid of the punitive mandates against conservative content creators. Period. As a matter of policy, we're done here. Forever.”
— Tim Pool · closing statement on platform policies
“When the story first broke, we did a poll. 85% said Crowder is right. Then after the Daily Wire people came on, it dropped to like 55-60%. After today's show with Crowder's side, it swung dramatically in his favor.”
— Ian Crossland · poll analysis